Wednesday: Terry Tweets & Philly Polls

Just a quick round-up this morning:

Terry will go to the Euros...

• Shambolic! RT @RobHarrisUK BREAKING: England captain Terry not to stand trial on charge of racially abusing opponent until after Euro 2012.

The skinny: John Terry’s legal trial regarding his alleged racial abuse of Anton Ferdinand postponed to the week of July 9th….or after Euros 2012. Wow. What to feel about your country’s legal system if you’re English?

Also, with England’s FA act independent of court ruling or does this give them an out.

• Sebu Le Toux had a statistical hand in just under 50% of the Union’s goals in 2010. What’s the move for the Union here?

The skinny: While the undercurrent making the rounds in the media is that Sebu Le Toux was a distraction for the Union. Is that just a smokescreen for a spat with Coach Piotr Nowak or does it smack of deeper troubles off the Walt Whitman?

Le Toux controlled the messaging on Wednesday morning suggesting that he was at worse a model Union player. Big things for management to answer for here. And we ask…..

Le Toux, blindsided...

• Find it exceedingly odd neither @AbbyWambach or @hopesolo commented on WPS. Being a sport’s ambassador means commenting in good *& bad times

The skinny: Abby Wambach joined Twitter during the height of the USWNT World Cup theatrics. She thanked her fans for showering her with applause, goaded on all to support the team and then turned around and pushed the WPS.

She is weirdly devoid of any public statement now 48 hours after the WPS announcement as is hope Solo who danced her way into nearly 20 million living rooms through ABC after the tourney.

Wambach is the current spokeswoman for women’s soccer in the US. Speak up please.

30 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by crow on 2012/02/01 at 7:01 AM

    There’s a link to what really happened with Le Toux. Absolutely disgusting. Nowak is going to have a lot of fun walking into the tunnel this year. #1 comment on the article discussing Nowak’s reasoning for trading Le Toux is FU Nowak.


    • Posted by matthewsf on 2012/02/01 at 7:20 AM

      that’s the link above budy AND it’s only one side of the story. there are two to this one. trust us.


  2. Posted by Crow on 2012/02/01 at 8:02 AM

    K know what you are saying and I’m sure its true to an extent, but…..

    That story leaves alot out according to people who were at the restaurant last night. It goes relatively easy on Nowak and company.

    Apparently, what Le Toux did wrong was leaving the Bolton trial early and it make Nowak look like a fool.

    I’m sure there is more to the story- there obviously was tension last year when Le Toux was playing in midfield, when he was paired with Ruiz, etc. I’m sure Nowak wanted him gone for awhile and as soon as Sakiewicz decided they wouldnt give him any kind of raise it was finished.

    I was never happy with Nowak originally being hired as coach two years ago. My view has diminished over time. I’ve personally witnessed the way he conducts himself on the field and in the tunnel coming out of the locker room. He is an ass and he seems to enjoy it. That might be okay if he was a good coach, but he is not. Just look at his quote that was from his PR friendly comment on the situation: “Feelings are not in my job description. I have to make sure that the team is good and that the team is going to have a future.”

    He left the team several times in the middle of the season to go to Poland. He acted like a spoiled child and blamed the fans for the Carlos Ruiz situation. He consistenly mismanaged the roster rotating players for no reason (no champions league, us open cup games) causing the midseason funk because of no chemistry. And who can can forget Dominic Kinnear making him look like a 8 year old playing Fantasy Premier Manager in the playoffs?

    So I will side with a player who I’m sure wasn’t perfect but certainly wasn’t a distraction from what Ive heard, had a huge hand in helping the community, gave 110% to his club for two years, endeared himself to the fanbase, and would have rather stayed with the team than try to go to an EPL team. In this era of Dwight Howards/Carlos Tevez its rare to have a player like Le Toux.

    If you don’t have all the facts look at past patterns and it certainly looks like Le Toux is the one worth supporting.


    • Posted by yessiree on 2012/02/01 at 11:31 AM


      Nowak is a punk. There’s no doubt that he has some talent putting together a youth development system, but he’s often tactically unsound and has made a series of bizarre acquisition errors. Worse, he does this in under a Pyongyang-style approach to management.

      While the Le Toux saga is the most offensive example of poor stewardship, it’s only the latest in a fairly long line. Chris Seitz, Michael Orozco Fiscal, Carlos Ruiz, Jordan Harvey, Juan Diego Gonzalez, Stefani Miglioranzi, Freddy Adu, and now Mondragon and Le Toux all have asterisks next to their name annotating Nowak’s surging litany of mismanagement. I’m sick of it and I’m even sicker of his twisted arrogance whenever he’s questioned.

      Here’s the thing: Le Toux has embodied hard work, earnestness, and honesty throughout his career. If he hadn’t and if the Delco interview didn’t align so well with the situation (and square exactly with the kind of behavior we’ve come to expect from Nowak and co), I don’t think the fanbase would be so enraged. But here we are.

      I’ve grown increasingly concerned about Nowak’s management over the past year, which was punctuated with issues that were papered over by the hustle and grit of a team punching above their weight. But now it’s out in the open and it’s ugly. I want Nowak gone.


      • I think you were there Crow, but the goodbye video to LeToux is quite touching. At some point in the future of MLS, you aren’t going to see players going to bars to have goodbye parties for their players with the players attending… That will be a sad transition. (warning, minor profanities in video)


  3. I knew this Terry thing was coming. There is no justification for moving the trial (especially as it is after the Euros) when you just put up the message of


    by banning Luis Suarez. (note: I am not complaining about the Suarez ban).

    I would be surprised if Terry doesn’t get a much less severe punishment than Suarez as well.


    • FYI: Part of the reasoning for the move is that “it is hard to get players to testify during the season”.

      Er. WHAT?

      That is why you moved the trial til AFTER the Euro’s? Nobody thinks that 8 months after the incident it is going to be slightly more difficult to get accurate statements from those involved/those that witnessed?


      • Posted by sfshwebb on 2012/02/01 at 1:25 PM

        Athletes always get away with stuff regardless of country. Don’t get me wrong, I despise John Terry, but Roethlisberger didn’t even have a trial for his alleged rape of of a woman in a Tahoe casino or his sexual assualt of a girl in a Georgia bar. Both were settled out of court but as crimes go, he was accused of sexual assualt and rape and his punishment was to miss 6 games (Handed out by the NFL NOT the Steelers). Please note am not comparing rape to racism…both are despicable.

        Terry still claims his innocence (innocent until proven guilty is what the law says). At least he’s going to a trial. Look at this way, if the trial was during the season, there would be a litany of reasons created why he couldn’t get to court or not appear and nothing would get accomplished. During the off season, this will be the big story with no distractions and hopefully no excuses.


        • While I agree, (as well I wouldn’t say this is a nationality thing) the problem is that Suarez had this happen in October and was punished by December. The PERCEPTION is going to be that Terry is getting away with this.

          I understand that the problem here is that this (v Suarez) is a legal case rather than just a FA case, however it looks colossally awful by comparison.


          • Posted by sfshwebb on 2012/02/01 at 4:13 PM

            good point!


          • Posted by Jared on 2012/02/01 at 4:44 PM

            It definitely looks like the English are doing their best to pass this off until after he captains the team at Euro 2012. Suarez got screwed in this whole thing since it never went to the courts.

            The FA needs to grow some balls and punish Terry prior to any ruling by the courts.


        • Posted by Dylan on 2012/02/02 at 5:34 AM

          Yep the NFL has some clout when it comes to players crimes. Jamal Lewis Got convicted of Smuggling Cocaine from Atlanta up to New England, was sentenced to 6 months, and was told he could wait to serve it until after the season. Yep, Money talks, no matter where you live.


          • Posted by dikranovich on 2012/02/02 at 5:56 AM

            dylan, im not sure what your point is, but are we not talking about the discrepency between the suarez punishment and the terry crawl to judgement?


            • Posted by Dylan on 2012/02/02 at 6:44 AM

              I was responding to s webb about the similarities in how athletes are treated when it comes to criminal charges. He mentioned the NFL and Roethlisberger. I was merely reiterating that point with another example from the NFL.

            • Posted by dikranovich on 2012/02/02 at 8:15 AM

              oh, im sorry, ill come back when we start talking soccer again. the legal experts can wrangle these delicate issues.

  4. Posted by dth on 2012/02/01 at 10:19 AM

    Best move by Union? Trading Nakazawa for an international slot and a second-round pick? That’s overpaying…by a lot. I don’t want to be too harsh, but Nakazawa is literally worth nothing.


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/02/01 at 1:13 PM

      Most days that news would make me very happy. I wouldn’t think you could get Adam Cristman for Kyle Nakazawa. Thank goodness Nowak won’t be able to give him 500-1000 minutes this year.

      My Dad is a true Philly sports fan from birth (from the city) then moved. I adopted only the Eagles growing up and waited patiently for the Union. He is mildly interested in the Union and attended the playoff game (first soccer game ever). He’s calling this Le Toux situation the worst in the city since the ’80’s Phillies being broke up.


      • Posted by dth on 2012/02/01 at 10:59 PM

        Kyle Nakazawa’s career is one of the biggest mysteries in MLS that no one comments on. He’s played 2008 minutes so far in his career, while being good at literally nothing in a professional sense. Meanwhile, Amobi Okugo has played 1248. Figure that out, someone. Please.


    • Posted by dikranovich on 2012/02/01 at 6:19 PM

      actually, galaxy get the second round spot and nakazawa, for the international spot. seems like a pretty good deal for LA, they have seven international spots anyway. philly has nine now, but only seven of them filled. LA gets a player and a pick next year and they relinquish an eighth international spot.


    • Posted by Berniebernier on 2012/02/02 at 6:51 PM

      Isn’t it all about roster composition. I will be the first to admit between the cap, allocation money, and all the other things I am flying blind here but..

      It seems that the Galaxy have to be close to up against the salary cap. To me that makes it hard to get a international player anyway. Seems like an international player isn’t coming for the league min. Plus they get the slot back next year. Not sure they gave much up.


  5. Posted by Berniebernier on 2012/02/01 at 2:52 PM

    Looks like Duece is playing the 1 in Fulham’s 4-2-3-1 today. Although it is playing more like a 4-2-4 (but with 6 MFs).


  6. Posted by mbw on 2012/02/01 at 5:29 PM

    Philadelphia goes into the 2012 season with the best young talent in the league and no idea where their goals will come from.


    • Posted by Eric on 2012/02/01 at 8:35 PM

      And, by the looks of a lot of the comments I’ve seen around Philly articles, an annoyed fanbase who are extremely frustrated about the player movements this offseason. This has been exemplified by the Le Toux trade which I’m fairly baffled by still. Even the Kenny Cooper deal to NY made more sense to me than this.


  7. Posted by DougS on 2012/02/01 at 10:03 PM

    I don’t know this firsthand, but I seem to remember hearing that Le Toux was a bit of a personality problem at the Sounders. Did anyone else hear that?


    • Posted by Dylan on 2012/02/02 at 5:38 AM

      One thing I do know, is that Le Toux has been a bit of a goal scoring problem for his opponents. I would think that would trump a lot of personality stuff. But you never know who he may have upset.


  8. Posted by Jared on 2012/02/03 at 4:19 AM

    Well, Terry has been stripped of the armband again. Stupid English coaches never should have given it to him in the first place or given it back after the Wayne Bridge stuff. Guy has zero class and comes from a family of zero class. To top it off he’s not even that good.


    • Posted by dth on 2012/02/03 at 2:10 PM

      Between this and Jack Wilshire’s injury, England look well-positioned to disappoint yet again. The only thing “off” this time is they never raised the expectations of a nation.


      • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/02/03 at 4:32 PM

        Don’t forget Rooney’s suspension!

        Very happy about Terry being stripped of the captaincy. I cringe at the thought of him leading my country out. Now there’s going to be crap about who will be the skipper at the Euros.


  9. the stadium is by the Comadore Barry Bridge, not the Walt Wit.


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