Posted 2012/04/14 by matthewsf in Uncategorized. 31 Comments
And now onto MLS.
The big one: Real Salt Lake vs. Sporting Kansas City.
The years have been kind...
Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/04/14 at 5:49 AM
Just because the game is not being played on Merseyside, doesn’t mean it’s not a Merseyside Derby.
Game has been very bit-y, not much. Oh epsilon at all, and long periods with the ball in the air. Liverpool did manage to get the ball down after Everton scored [horrible mix up BTW], but we’re reduced to taking shots from distance. I don’t think they got behind Everton once or troubled Howard at all. Basically had no creativity in the final third. Was really straightforward for Everton defensively – put a few men behind the ball and stayed fairly compact.
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 11:30 AM
Yeah, Liverpool looked better at the beginning of the new Dalglish era than now.
The rumors that they want to hire Johan Cruyff as a technical director are too delicious to be true. What a fascinating wait for an explosion that would be.
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 1:14 PM
Credit to Oscar Pareja for learning his lesson and trying to play his preferred game at Seattle. Don’t think it’ll work but you have to think long-term.
Posted by matthewsf on 2012/04/14 at 1:14 PM
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 1:27 PM
With Pareja and Cabrera together in the coaching staff, I’ll be interested to see how they approach player development. Two very talented people from that perspective.
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 2:28 PM
FREE AMOBI OKUGO.
That is all.
Posted by dude on 2012/04/14 at 4:27 PM
DC wins. Both teams missing their talisman (Dudar is that good) but we won the ensuing battle.
Posted by Ufficio on 2012/04/14 at 4:52 PM
Why do MLS officials let Marquez get away with this crap?
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 6:27 PM
SKC has really unsettled Kyle Beckerman with their pressure–he’s totally discombobulated. Cut off the head and the body will die, as they say.
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 8:04 PM
Galaxy continue the inexorable sucking-down-the-black-hole. Boyd 1-0.
Posted by Kay20 on 2012/04/14 at 10:02 PM
You left too early. Galaxy owned the 2nd half. LD goal, Juninho goal, and David Beckham with an absolute golazo.
3-1 LA and momentum to next week.
MOTM for David Lopes who got inserted into the starting XI (next to a rookie no less) after TWO DAYS of training.
Never has a win felt so good.
Also, LD and Robbie Keane FINALLY had the offense chugging with some fantastic soccer in the 2nd half – great one-touch passing sequences.
Posted by dth on 2012/04/14 at 10:25 PM
Didn’t leave at all–kept on watching.
Galaxy played like champs, i.e. finished off a team that seemed to have no mood of winning on its own. But Portland really should’ve had two in the first half if not for the linesman and Arena’s 4-4-2 with Juninho/Beckham is going to be under stress if more people play #10s. Nagbe played pretty well for the most part tonight but he just didn’t have enough fuel. Aside from Nagbe and Boyd, Portland is a pretty dumb team–nowhere near enough intelligence in the squad.
Posted by EFG on 2012/04/15 at 5:09 AM
MLS related: Del Piero has confirmed he is leaving Italy and would like to come to MLS with NY and LA his preferred destinations. Where does he go? It seems LA might be in more of a “need” than NY but how do they get a fourth DP?
Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/04/15 at 7:31 AM
How can the rest of MLS compete with DPs when the “preferred destination” is *always* NY or LA?
No offense to those living in other cities, such as Kansas or Columbus, but it is what it is.
Posted by Kevin S on 2012/04/15 at 8:23 AM
Well first of all most of the Dp’s that say they want to go to LA or NY are looking for a paid vacation, but as of right now, it is what it is.
To answer your question though the SKC’s, Colombus’s of MLS tend to have better team unity than teams like New York. It takes a damn good coach to even try to accomplish what LA did last year.
Posted by EFG on 2012/04/15 at 8:25 AM
Agreed. I don’t know why a city like Boston isn’t a more sought after location (off the field I mean). I think if there was a team in Miami or San Francisco proper those cities would be in the conversation with LA and NY.
Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/04/15 at 12:00 PM
Agreed, there is a lot to be said about unity and work ethic. But [ceterus paribus], that only takes you so far.
I used to live in Boston proper for 5 years and loved it, always wondered why.
What about Chicago, DC and Philadelphia? I know they’re not mega cities like NYC, but still great…
Posted by dth on 2012/04/15 at 3:21 PM
I suspect a bit part of it is the brand name of NY/LA. Ton more celebrities, news coverage, etc.
I bet if Miami had a team it’d rival NY and LA for preferred Euro destination (to say nothing of Latin American players).
Posted by BernieBernier on 2012/04/16 at 9:37 AM
As someone that lives in Boston, the big issue is that the stadium is no where near the city. Its 45 minutes away if you are lucky. For those from Europe that is not even remotely close (different sense of distance over there).
Posted by John henry on 2012/04/15 at 8:29 AM
You’d think dc, Chicago, Boston, San Jose (if only SF) and the Canadian teams would be nice urban locations too, if not celebrity bastions. Half of those have such shite stadiums that it might be depressing to play there though.
Also, an actual new York team would have an upper leg on the new jersey red bulls in my opinion.
Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/04/15 at 12:14 PM
Not sure how much truth there are to the rumors, but the Pier 40 location on the west side of Manhattan is getting more and more mentions in the mainstream media. Not sure how much I believe it (because of the costs, red tape and other restrictions) but it would be great to have a truly local team (it takes anywhere between 60 – 80 minutes and 2 transfers on public transport to get to NYRBs and those night games can be awful afterwards)…
But I do understand that the area already has one team and there are parts of the US that don’t.
Posted by John Henry on 2012/04/15 at 1:48 PM
Off topic, but seems to me that the trend of “City” teams being in some cases barely even proximate to the city is only possible with the franchise model. It’s hard to believe that, given a choice, New Yorkers for example would prefer a “New York” team in NJ to one actually in New York. (Imagine if the Mets were in Newark…)
On the flip side of that, as a Bostonian myself, I tend to think that all the Revs need is an urban SSS. With all the college students and young professionals, Boston seems to me primed for a soccer team. Did you get that sense when you lived here or was that before the most recent uptick in soccer interest in the country?
Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/04/15 at 6:05 PM
To be honest, most Bostonians / New Englanders I knew were hardcore Celtics, Red Sox and Patriots fans! And did not give a shit about football for the most part – they would jump on the bandwagon during the World Cup, and say that they always followed it to save face, but the reality is, perhaps with the exception of
CL Final, El Clasico and the Euros, they didn’t watch much, even though I tried to get them to watch the Revs on multiple occasions.
I played a lot of soccer in recreation leagues in Revere and Somerville, where almost two thirds were immigrants. And you guessed it, the one third were American didn’t *seem* to be too interested in MLS** – they generally followed the European leagues. The league informally arranged a trip to a few Revs games, and it was very very immigrant heavy. I know it is an extremely small sample size to extrapolate, but if Kraft were to build a SSS, I would have to think it would be in some “immigrant hotspot”. But the reality is, what incentive does Kraft have to spend $XXX on a 30,000 SSS?
Posted by BernieBernier on 2012/04/16 at 9:49 AM
I don’t disagree with your conclusion George, but between the immigrants and the college kids the Revs could draw very well with a stadium that people could get to and affordable tickets. I have never been to a Revs game and have no desire to go to Foxborough. It is a day experience and because of my job I could really only go on the weekends.
30,000 might be too big. But something more like Jeld-Win with 20,000 would make sense. It could also serve as concerts and being in the city a large number of other college uses (playoffs or finals for various college sports).
I think for the Revs to gain a fan base in the city they need a better location. Foxborough works for football because its a full day experience for most fans. The US/Spain game was a blast because I went down and tailgated, had basically a Patriots experience.
Posted by John on 2012/04/15 at 4:46 PM
For those of you wondering… Chicag v Houston is in a lightening/rain delay
Posted by John on 2012/04/15 at 5:42 PM
Meanwhile you can watch the San Antonio Scorpions first game at home against Puerto Rico for free (if so inclined). San Antonio has about 11/12k for the game which means that they outdrew the Revolution…. (They are also down 0-2 right now)
Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/04/16 at 7:10 AM
I’ve got to say that I admire many of you here who still manage to find the energy and wherewithal to watch and support what looks to me like glorified college soccer for the most part. Here in Philly especially I take my hat off to the folks who fill the Union Stadium to watch abysmal soccer. Just can’t get excited about the Pereira discussions on here or which Lopez did or didn’t play this weekend.
Apart from the DP’s it really does look like a Mexican league game that I would surf through without a hint of interest. I do hope the league can improve the product on the field but with clowns like Nowak being given free reign to blow up the 4-5 largest market team in a soccer friendly area it doesn’t look great for soccer here in US.
Just my two cents after spending a few years making an honest effort to support and watch MLS. I’m sure some will be unnecessarily incensed by it but if you’re really honest and objective it’s a pretty weak product in what is a strengthening market for soccer/football viewers.
Posted by John on 2012/04/16 at 7:34 AM
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, however I disagree. If you are a neutral maybe there isn’t something for you in MLS.
However, for me… the team that I support isn’t just about the play. I love this city, I love this town, I love the people that support the team and that love gets expressed in the game towards the guys on the pitch, win… lose.. or draw.
I don’t need the best players in the world, if watching Liverpool has taught me anything, it is that the best players can leave you. If the history of Leeds has taught us anything it is that a big team can fall far. If seeing the financial crisis at Rangers has taught us anything it is that teams can be leveraged too far, and even large teams can financially implode.
The fact is that if everyone only watched soccer for the best of the best, than every league around the world should just go under and we should merge Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United, Manchester City, Bayern, Inter and AC into their own private league.
Having a less than stellar product doesn’t keep people from Sweden from supporting their team, or Turkey, or Greece. Hardly any of those teams are going to make the Champions league semi-finals… maybe one in 10 years.
Sticking by your club through thick and thin is what defines us as fans. If Nowak blows up the team and gets fired, you can only imagine the great release and boundless optimism that happens when a new coach is brought in.
Of course everyone finds their own reason and if yours is watching the best athletes play, then more power to you.
However unless you support a team with a mountain of cash that is unending, at some point…. the results will fall, the team will falter, the players will go and what you will be left with is supporting the team because you love them through all the trials and tribulations that happen.
Posted by John on 2012/04/16 at 7:48 AM
BTW: a perfect local example of this is Tampa Bay. They had a team in the original NASL and had different iterations over the years. In the past couple years they tried to bring the rowdies back in one form or the other. There were trademark disputes, the team played as FC Tampa for two seasons, and then this year…
They finally have their team back, one to call their own. Whether the play is terrible or not, it means something more than just tika taka.
Posted by dth on 2012/04/16 at 8:27 PM
Sorry to hear Jack Wilshere was officially ruled out of Euro 2012. Such a talented player. Hope the lost year to injury is just a fluke.
Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/04/17 at 8:30 AM
Agreed. The longer that new blood gets held off the longer Ingerlands MF problems will continue with the same old Frank and Stevie show. Love both of them but new blood is essential to them moving beyond the current morass.
Saw the report on Stuey being ruled out of the rest of the campaign by Coyle as well. God I hope he can get and stay healthy.
Still think Evans is a scum..
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