The Weekend: Citizens Or Devils?

Last day in the EPL….perhaps for Bolton as well?

Who goes out on top?


108 responses to this post.

  1. We don’t need a DP. I think it’s been made clear that the Dynamo only wants a DP that 1 wants to be here and 2 fits into our team. Even though it would be great to have a DP it certainly isn’t the requirement to compete in MLS. I think people forget that there’s teams with a DP that haven’t had much success and there’s teams without DP’s (us included) that have had success.


  2. Posted by Texas 1836 on 2012/05/12 at 11:43 AM

    I vote Lionel Messi.


  3. Posted by Michael on 2012/05/12 at 12:15 PM

    Raul would fit nicely.


  4. Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 1:31 PM

    Shouldn’t we be yelling at Houston’s inability so far to develop a good young homegrown player? They’re sitting on a youth hotbed and so far…nothing.


    • The academy has been producing talent, but if Kinnear has any weaknesses its giving the future some playing time. He’s definitely more focused on the present than the future.


      • Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 2:00 PM

        Well, there have been players but (in general, of the ones I’ve seen) I haven’t been really impressed by many as high potential ones. FC Dallas seems to produce more youth with high ceilings (as can be seen by the comparative youth national team counts–with Dallas sending kids to both Mexico and US YNTs).


        • Dynamo Academy GK Fernando Piña has played for several US YNTs, just an FYI. No argument that the academy program needs to improve though.


          • I feel like Josue Soto is really underrated. Right now he’s on loan to SA but honestly from the little bit I’ve seen from him during preseason, I would prefer him over Clark on that right hand side.


  5. Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 2:02 PM

    Oh, and LOLOLOLOLOLLLOLOLLL to Philip Lahm and Jupp Heynckes claiming Bayern were the better team than Dortmund. You lost 5:2, guys. (Maybe the best game I’ve seen from Shinji Kagawa. Contract game, anyone? Hopefully Dortmund can get a largish sum of money to go find some other player, as I’m not sure Leitner is quite ready yet.)


  6. Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 2:15 PM



  7. Posted by mbw on 2012/05/12 at 2:30 PM

    Damn — sorry to see Perry Kitchen leave this game.


    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 4:00 PM

      If you’re DC United, isn’t the solution to make the Union a nice offer for Amobi Okugo? (Assuming that it’s bad for Kitchen, which we hope it’s not.)

      (Alternatively, could also try for RSL’s Yordany Alvarez, and, uh, hm…)


  8. Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/12 at 4:04 PM

    Didn’t catch the first half. Did the stadium look half-empty all game?


    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 4:23 PM

      No. Suspect fans were hiding out in the concourse or something from the heat.


      • It was REALLY hot on the sunny side of the stadium, we purposefully made our season ticket picks on the primarily shaded side. There was definitely close to a full house.


  9. Posted by mbw on 2012/05/12 at 7:14 PM

    Lee Nguyen knows that revenge is a dish best served spectacularly.


  10. Posted by mbw on 2012/05/12 at 7:18 PM

    I’m always struck by how much RSL changes when they do a straight swap of Gil for Morales. Probably an obvious point, but Gil and Morales don’t play the same position. Actually, I think Gil plays a position that doesn’t exist in RSL’s system.


    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 8:05 PM

      For whatever reason, Gil doesn’t get the ball enough to be a #10 yet. Think it’s mostly him (his movement isn’t good enough yet) and partially his teammates (they don’t look for him enough sometimes).


      • Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/12 at 8:15 PM

        There he is.


        • Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 8:56 PM

          Yup. While Gil doesn’t get a lot of touches, he generates chances with them (about 2.17/90, which is really good…though nowhere near as good as Morales’s 3.4/90.)


  11. I have to say it’s a pretty fantastic venue. It is LOUD and there’s honestly not a bad seat in the house, the front row is practically right on the field and everything between there and the far rows of the upper deck has a fantastic view.

    Definitely worth a visit if you can ever make it out to a game, this is going to be a serious home field advantage for the orange.


  12. Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/12 at 8:18 PM

    Eddie Johnson: as dumb as Steven Lenhart.


    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/12 at 8:30 PM

      Lenhart isn’t dumb, he’s a jackass. Johnson is dumb, and timid.


      • I don’t know him but Johnson may be dumb and timid.

        Still, he has been a pro since 2001, getting people to pay him , at this point, quite a bit of money, to do something most everyone on this site would kill to do.

        If he has been able to get people to pay him for eleven years or so how dumb and timid is he really?


        • Posted by dth on 2012/05/13 at 5:43 PM

          On the pitch, yeah. Off the pitch I have no idea and I didn’t mean to comment on that.

          He gets paid money in the hopes that he’ll wake up one day and not be that. Because if he ever became average soccer IQ and average aggressiveness, he’d be a top six league player easy on athleticism alone. It’s not unlike the answer to the question, “Why does [Seven Foot Stiff X] continue to have an NBA career?”


          • Posted by schmutzdeck on 2012/05/14 at 9:20 AM

            So who is dumb?

            EJ who has been making a pretty good living impersonating a top striker for about 10 years?

            Or the guys who are paying him to do so?

            We should all be so lucky to have such credulous people paying us.


            • Posted by dth on 2012/05/14 at 9:26 AM

              On the pitch, EJ is dumb. Off the pitch, they people paying him are dumb.

  13. I’m conflicted. I need QPR to lose for Bolton to even have a chance of staying up, but for united to win it all I need QPR to win… city just took the lead…


    • Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/13 at 10:45 AM

      Probably not the worst thing in the world for Bolton to go down. I’ll be happy just to Stu back on the field again, even if it’s in the Championship.


      • Do you think Stu will have any interest in the EPL?


        • Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/13 at 6:32 PM

          Well, he’s said he will stay with Bolton, but I suppose none of us should be shocked if a suitor came calling and he had a change of heart.

          But given how the last fourteen months have gone, I would suspect said suitor would want him to prove he can stay healthy over the course of a half-season at least.


  14. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 8:48 AM

    Ream and Holden in the Championship? Let’s see how they handle Selhurst Park on a cold, wet Wednesday night…

    2 less Scottish mangers, and 3 more English managers in the PL. Nice.


    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:30 AM

      Dial R for relegation!!


      • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:10 PM

        this makes me very sad. Bolton has been through so much with all of their losses/setbacks this year. They deserved better- they almost pulled it off. Stu says he is loyal to Bolton. Hopefully they can win the Championship next year.


        • If everyone comes back healthy they may be okay but I would not say their prospects for immediate return are great. Bolton are 100 million in debt.

          Going down does not help.


      • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:11 PM

        I’m surprised you’re happy- that means QPR is staying up.


        • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 1:31 PM

          To be honest, it stems from it being easier to travel to Palace away games, cost and time wise.

          But as a Londoner, I prefer to see London clubs do well. Perhaps not Millwall though.


  15. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 8:57 AM

    City score two goals in Fergie Time. Fucking brilliant.


    • Posted by Nick on 2012/05/13 at 9:47 PM

      I said the same thing to a United fan friend of mine, though not quite as eloquently as you put it George. Best comment of the weekend, hopefully someone on FSC had the stones to utter it.


  16. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:08 AM

    I wonder how many City tops I will see in the next few years. And for people to claim that they “have always supported City”, just like the nouveau Chelsea fans.



    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/13 at 9:17 AM

      Tons. City’s tops are pretty attractive tops. Chelsea’s are boring.


      • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:20 AM

        To buy a football top because it is “attractive” is ridiculous. Obviously the moneymen won’t agree with me…


        • Posted by CJ on 2012/05/13 at 10:22 AM

          Isn’t any American who’s never been across the sea and supports a European team a bandwagoner of sorts? What’s it matter? I just like having more soccer fans to chat with and another great club to watch.


          • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 11:24 AM

            In the grand scheme of things, yes, it doesn’t matter. It is just a sport.

            But as a die hard fan, it is very annoying when people “choose” a team just because they are successful. Personally, I do not respect that. I think this translates across sports, no? That person in your office who’s a Yankees, Steelers, Lakers, Barcelona and Brazil “fan”…


            • Posted by dth on 2012/05/13 at 1:08 PM

              I don’t think it’s wrong to choose a team on the basis of success. People who are from nowheresville professional-team-wise know what I mean–there’s really not a lot to choose from. (Should an upstate–I mean really upstate, not Westchester upstate–New Yorker root for a New York team just because it’s the closest? That doesn’t make much sense.) So if you want to root for a team and say you’re a fan, you might as well choose on the basis of success. It’s what happens when your chosen team hits hard times that defines whether or not you’re a bandwagoner….

            • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:08 PM

              I agree- I can’t stand front runners.

              The only big team I like in soccer is Borussia Dortmund who I find impossible not to like. In American sports I like teams who have never won a championship (Eagles) or haven’t in over a 100 years (Cubs). I know if they ever win a championship it will be much more fulfilling than just picking some successful team.

              I know someone that literally changes his favorite team based off how they are performing. That is childish.

            • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 2:51 PM

              My logic asks why would you support a team that you have zero chance of watching in person? It might only be a couple of times a year because of economic reasons etc, but surely that’s better than a NYer following the Bulls or Lakers. I felt the same way growing up – in London it’s sort of acceptable to support any London team, but if you’re from south London like me, and you did not inherit your family’s team, why would you support a north London club, when you’ve got Palace, Charlton, Wimbledon, Millwall etc on your doorstep… And can watch them regularly?

            • That is a pretty consdescending attitude. I know lots of fans who can’t afford to see their teams “live”. Check out hockey prices sometime.

              This is America not London and the fan experience here is just a bit different.

            • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/14 at 9:38 AM

              I am not suggesting you’re not a fan if you cannot afford to go, and are priced out etc., that is ridiculous.

              My comment was aimed at people who support a team half across the country, where seeing them live would be extremely difficult. I guess what I was essentially saying was “support your local team”. And if you can only afford to go once every year, then so be it. But surely looking forward to this treat is better than only watching the team you support on TV because you live so far away, and therefore unrealistic.

            • Posted by BernieBernier on 2012/05/14 at 7:46 PM

              The US is so big compared to Europe. If you live in say Buffalo the closest team is the Revolution. They are 1) in a different state and 2) about a 10 hour drive away.

              Now if you live in 1 of the 5 boroughs then you should support the Red Bull or no one. You can always just be a fan of the game without having to be a fan of a specific team.

            • Posted by schmutzdeck on 2012/05/14 at 8:32 PM

              In terms of comparing US and UK fans it is important to remember the comparativley high density of the UK clubs. London, Lanchashire, the Midlands all have high concentrations of clubs.

              This means many clubs are in close proximity to each other fostering rivalries. Also, traveling supporters are a big part of these rivalries and the subsequent fan experince.

              But the UK is so small and the furthest a fan might have to travel is what 400 miles? Maybe 5-6 hours drive time?

              How many UK supporters have to get on a jet plane to see their team?

              As for supporting your local team that just takes on an entirel;y different meaning in the US, which has a very mobile population and very mobile franchises.

              Baltimore Maryland still has many natives who picked up other team as such as the Eagles, the Cowboys, the Dolphins and so on when the Colts left and never did warm up to the Ravens.

              So it simply is unrealistic to judge US fans by UK standards.

            • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/14 at 11:37 PM

              I understand the geography, but that does not excuse being a glory fan. Sorry, I’m not having it. Plus, I have been to many NYRBs games vs. the likes of NE, DC and Philly and less than 100 away fans turn up. No excuse, that is weak.

              But back to the point, I hate glory fans. Simple as that. I don’t care what you say, it won’t change my opinion.

          • Posted by Antonio Henry on 2012/05/13 at 7:10 PM

            No. Example. I support Villa. We haven’t won shit since I’ve been alive, therefore no.


          • Posted by Spiritof76 on 2012/05/14 at 7:01 AM

            NO! American’s have great reasons for liking European teams. For instance, I like Nottingham Forest because thats where Robin Hood is from, and I like “Reading” because its like free advertisement for early childhood education. I don’t like Newcastle because they used to have Joey Barton and I don’t like QPR for the same reason. I like Norwhich because yellow is exciting. And I’ll root for whatever team an American is playing for unless there is an American on both teams, in which case I’ll root for the one wearing the color closest to yellow.


  17. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:13 AM

    I would have love to have seen Fergie’s face when City scored their third. Hope he choked on the chewing gum!!


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:03 PM

      It is kind of funny but I hate any team that just gets a ton of money thrown into it to put together a “team” winning a title. Manchester City to me is the Miami Heat of the EPL. With that said at least United, Chelsea, and Arsenal didn’t win the title.


      • While I do agree, Manchester City should also be the prime example of how to build a team fueled by cash. I certainly can respect Mancini for doing an admirable job building a an actual team and keeping certain egos in check (for the most part). Additionally they’ve cast off people who were too good for the club or just didn’t fit in. Robinho Adebayor and recently Tevez appeared to be heading in this direction. Mancini got Tevez to cave… That’s pretty impressive.


        • Posted by schmutzdeck on 2012/05/13 at 4:53 PM

          Mancini handled Tevez well but Tevez “caved” because he basically ran out of options.


          • He didn’t have any options because City was holding out for a price that no one was willing to pay. Whether by design or not Mancini and the Manchester City FO got Tevez to cave.


      • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 2:44 PM

        I dislike ‘cheque book champions’, I think we all do. But the reality is, if any team outside of a select few want to win the PL, then serious money has to be spent. Not saying I agree with it, but it is what it is. After listening to United fans grumble about City’s wealth is sour grapes IMO – there’s a new kid in the playground with more pocket money and they don’t like it… United have consistently been buying players for a lot of money over the last 30 years and paying them more money than everybody else until Chelsea and City have come along (a lot of people forget that the money spent on the likes of Robson, Pallister and Keane, for example, although peanuts in 2012 terms, we’re transfer records at the time).

        I think FFP is a good thing, but I am worried about the fact that it sort of stops other clubs from being able to pull up a chair and sit at the big table – it pulls the drawbridge up after a few have got to the other side. How would a team like Sunderland or Villa join this elite? Yes they can produce their own players, be smarter with recruitment, but the reality is, they will essentially be a selling club because they can’t compete salary wise etc., just like Arsenal have basically
        become over the last 5 years.

        I guess I have mixed feelings, the traditionalist and the modern realist, if that makes sense?!


      • Crow,

        One thing you can say for the EPL, it is one of the few competitions left where you can say with reasonable certainty that the champion has been tested over time and against all comers.

        That is what happens when you play 38 games, home and away against everyone in your league.

        The sort of situation where a team gets hot at playoff time, and wins three out of four against a team that is normally superior, is not as common.

        City beat United twice and out performed them over the course of the entire season. They were a better “team” than anyone else regardless of the price tag


  18. Posted by dth on 2012/05/13 at 9:19 AM

    Not on the main subject of every soccer fan’s mind, but apparently Nowak traded Califf to Chivas? That’s the rumor. Geez, what a chaotic team. FREE AMOBI OKUGO.


    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/13 at 9:40 AM

      Today in WTF Union shapes: WTF is Keon Daniel doing centrally?


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:01 PM

      peter nowak is a god! how dare do you speak about him that way. his knowledge is so vast we can’t even begin to comprehend it.


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 4:08 PM

      Peter Nowak was once a great soccer coach until he took an arrow to the knee.


  19. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:22 AM

    Have to settle for MLS / NYRBs for a few months. #Painful


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:00 PM

      The NYRB’s may be painful but MLS isn’t. If you feel MLS is that horrible then don’t watch it. Get over yourself.


      • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 3:09 PM

        Calm down! It is not like I am expressing an opinion where I have not been to a game. Been to most of NYRBs home games for the last couple of seasons and have seen most teams at some point too. I enjoy going to watch football live, and to be honest, the quality has not been that great for the most part, from NYRBs or their opponent. It’s your right to be protective of the MLS, but it is what it is. Sorry if that offends you.


        • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/15 at 5:03 AM


          Objective opinions on quality of MLS play are apparently not welcome here any longer. And if you want to talk about the EPL you should go to another site as this is for American soccer…..that’s what I’ve learned over the last few days of trying to discuss Man City’s pretty awesome championship run. And I’m a freaking Chelsea supporter (since pre-Mourinho BTW so don’t hate))))

          For the record, I’ve tried to watch regularly AND support both the local Union team and the league and have objectively found it hard to watch in person and on the telly. It’s Championship level play on most days with the occasional leap up to bottom table EPL. Watch the Kenny Cooper goal from Sunday for what I find is the far too common level of defending etc…an unmarked, unpressured MF plays a lofted ball over the top that the central def somehow misjudges in the air, (IN THE AIR!),Cooper bundles his way through a poor McMath challenge, the defender somehow forgets to clear the ball and…..there’s your winner! I’m sure I’ll be castigated as unAmerican and arrogant etc but facts is facts people….
          by the way for those touting and policing this as an MLS first/only site please go back to the About Us mission statement on the site that first attracted many of us a few years back…not hating fellas just stating an opinion…


          • Posted by BernieBernier on 2012/05/15 at 5:49 AM

            KickinNames – I don’t think people jumping on you for opinions are fair. That said, I do question the point of making objective statements like MLS isn’t as good as EPL. No rational person disagrees with you (the only thing MLS has going for it is the upsets). Especially when its not part of a conversation about the quality of MLS. This is basically a USMNT/MLS website. Yes it covers other leagues but a vast majority of the content is around those two areas. I shudder to think what would happen if I went to a Chelsea website and continually pointed out that objectively Chelsea isn’t as good as Real Madrid. My guess is that the responses here are tame by comparison.


            • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/15 at 6:31 AM

              Here’s the mission statement from the site…
              The goal is simple…share the love of soccer with others, help promote the sport in the US and hopefully meet some interesting people along the way. The writing is primarily about American players, as part of the Men’s National Team and abroad. Also discussed is the EPL as it is the lens through which many Americans view soccer as well as its increasing exposure via the new ESPN broadcast rights.

              I came in on Sunday night to an article headed..Citizens vs Devils…and saw zero comments about an amazing finish to the EPL campaign and tongue in cheek noted a lot of MLS chatter under the same heading. Expressed my surprise at that fact…

              Looking forward to USMNT cranking up and a Chelsea CL trophy.

          • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/15 at 6:34 AM

            Since WC2010, I have seen a noticeable shift towards MLS from the Prem. But not sure I agree with you that this is an (exclusive?) USMNT / MLS website.

            Re. my comment, while you may disagree with me, I do at least support MLS probably more than most, by actually attending 15 or so games per season. And not cite the bottleneck upon leaving the car park as a reason not to go, or the team is crap etc…


            • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/15 at 7:01 AM


              I just pasted in the mission statement from The Shin Guardian’s site in my statement above as a reference to what I stumbled upon when I first found the site in 09. A refreshing change from the “your mother” based discussions on most of the other blogs. Where healthy, thoughtful discussion and disagreement was the order of the day.
              I don’t think it needs/should to be an exclusive anything site just surprised that background MLS player/mgr chatter trumped what was a pretty damn exciting and enjoyable EPL final day. Not a fan of either team in it but from a pure footie standpoint I would think it deserved some commentary on a soccer only blogsite…
              Bravo to those who take a strong affiliation with their local MLS club seriously.I’ve sampled the same product and just don’t enjoy the product enough to invest in it I suppose. It’s funny, I played indoor with the now President of RSL a few years back when he was out East and have expressed that same opinion and he didn’t seem bothered by it at all. Free market and all that…

              Peace to one an all and I look forward to more thoughtful and reasoned articles and commentary as the MNT qualifying cranks up.

              And Come on Chelsea!!)))

    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 1:05 PM

      plus there are the Euros and WCQs


  20. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:28 AM

    Going to have to listen to Nasri and Clichy talk about how there greed, erm footballing decisions were justified.


    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/05/13 at 9:29 AM



    • Posted by Antonio Henry on 2012/05/13 at 7:14 PM

      won’t be surprised if both go back to France in a few years to win the big one. Clichy already said he wants to go back to PSG before his prime is up


    • Posted by mathmatics on 2012/05/14 at 5:57 AM

      A question for those who would label Nasri, et al as mercenaries. How is moving from Arsenal to City any different from his original move from Marseille to Arsenal? Weren’t both decisions based on money and prestige?


      • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/15 at 5:43 AM

        That’s just silly Gooner faithful talk. Especially considering that Wenger let Fabregas depart without a fight as well. I don’t really know too many rational fans who think of Nasri as anything other than a good pro who went for hardware. With Fabregas departing for 2 yrs or so he had to know that trophy opportunities were going to get really slim.


  21. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 4:07 PM

    So the debate will start again- will/should Dempsey go to Arsenal (Champions League) or Spurs (probably Champions League) next year?


    • Posted by Damon on 2012/05/14 at 5:58 AM

      I can’t really see how Arsenal would make a serious attempt for Demsey. On the wings they have Podolski, Walcott, Gervinho, Chamberlain, and Ryo. I guess that Arsenal could look to put him in the middle where he does seem to be a better option than Rosicky or Ramsey but I’d think if Dempsey were to get his shot at a bigger club he would start out wide.


      • Dempsey is a more proven commodity, a more proven scorer, in the EPL than any of the players you listed.

        If your list is the actual player pool, you start him at Arsenal in the same place he starts, more or less for Fulham, out wide. The man is 29 , he’s not getting any younger and he will be expensive.

        So if you are Wenger and are going to buy him, don’t screw around. Put RVP at striker, Podolski in the hole behind him and hae Dempsey floating in from the wing swtiching off with Podolski.
        Make him comfortable because you want him to score as much as possible as soon as possible to justifying spending that much money on a 29 year old.

        Because if Clint does not work out they will crucify you.


  22. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 4:09 PM

    GET YOUR TICKETS NOW! There may be the Euros, WCQs, MLS, but the ticket you CANT miss- the two best managers in the world- Aston Villa vs Philly Union exhibition! McLeish vs Nowak Pay Per View $69.99


  23. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/13 at 4:15 PM

    Did anyone see Nowak’s “classy” tweet about “at least we’re not from New York” before it was “taken down”. His account is now in protected status. Its funny that finally The River End is now turning on him now that Califf may be traded.


  24. Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/14 at 5:50 AM

    Probably the most cliche worthy ending for what is considered the top league in the world and I tune in here for Peter Nowak bashing?!! Houston Dynamo player selection?…..really?

    Balotelli with real, desperate hold up play to put Aguero in. Learning from the United fans that City had just scored….Again! Eric Wynalda spouting nonsensical arguments with no basis…Lalas trying to somehow compare City’s success to his unrecognized formerly considered disgraceful GM work…

    Can I get a Danny Califf update?


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/14 at 6:12 AM

      Sorry but I could care less about the big teams in the EPL. It was an interesting ending. I cared more about Bolton not winning.


    • Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/14 at 8:49 AM

      Complaining about what other people are discussing in the comments section?…..really?


      • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/14 at 10:14 AM

        Under the article heading…”Citizens or Devils?…” ….ummm….yeah….really…

        Historic ending to biggest football weekend vs Peter Nowak Mania!???…ummm…yeah.


        • Posted by Ufficio on 2012/05/14 at 10:55 AM

          The thread originally referred to Houston’s opening, but the title and picture were changed at some point.

          People are going to discuss whatever they’re interested in. The blog is heavily geared towards fans for US Soccer, after all.


    • What did Lalas say?


      • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/05/15 at 4:14 AM


        It was at the crossover on ESPN to the Union RB game and he made some pretzel bending effort to connect how he understood from experience big spending like City did and sometimes the efforts take a long time to take effect. A pretty clear Alexi like effort to congratulate himself on the Galaxy championship a few years back. I’ve reached the point where he actually amuses me.


  25. Posted by dth on 2012/05/14 at 7:18 AM

    Lost in all the City hubbub is that Juve completed their Serie A season undefeated. A lot of draws in there, but still seriously impressive.


    • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/14 at 8:16 AM



    • Posted by Jared on 2012/05/14 at 10:59 AM

      The best part of Juve winning is that they are planning on adding a 3rd star above the crest on their jersey (1 start = 10 scudettos). The problem with this is that they are only at 28 due to losing 2 in the calciopoli scandal.

      It might not just be Serie A undefeated for Juve, they could end up undefeated domestically if they beat Napoli in the Coppa Italia final.


  26. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/14 at 8:21 AM

    I know that the circumstances with the angst City has always felt being the little brother in Manchester and the league being decided in the final minutes adds to the gravity of what happened, but I still wasn’t completely blown away by it- Queens Park Rangers were a horrible team all year playing with 10 men. We see multiple goals being scored at the end of games often. It would have really been something if that would have knocked QPR out of the league.

    I still think the A-League Final the other year was more incredible- Brisbane goes down 2 goals in extra time only to score 2 in the final 4 minutes including on the final play of the game and then wins it in penalties.


  27. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/14 at 11:19 AM

    Freddy Adu finally had a promising 45 minutes… cut short too early..

    I’m not a fan of Houston at all, but it is nice to see that their beautiful stadium is such a success. I wish more teams were able to have their stadiums in a downtown area. And I like how close to the field the fans are in Houston and Kansas City- unlike Philly.


  28. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/14 at 6:14 PM

    this is disturbing from ESPN Insider:

    John Brooks, D, Hertha Berlin — Pegged by many as the savior for the U.S. in central defense, Brooks has had a startlingly bad campaign at the U-23 level for his club. Hertha — a team inclined to promote youth — played much of the season with several injured center backs and a crisis in defense, and yet Brooks never got a look. Toward the end of the year, after some scathing comments from the first-team coach, he was demoted to the U-19s — not a positive series of events for a bright American prospect at a trouble spot for the full team.


    • Posted by dth on 2012/05/14 at 6:21 PM

      Yes, not the most encouraging. I don’t know how Sean Cunningham is playing, but being a first-choice starter at age 18 at CB is pretty impressive–no matter how bad the team you’re playing is (and Stabaek are pretty bad). With Will Packwood, the defense looks pretty darn good and better than in 2011 and 2009. (oddly, the weak position looks to be…right back. No obvious pro right backs.)


      • Posted by Crow on 2012/05/15 at 5:58 AM

        Well, both Packwood and Cunningham are listed as ‘rising’ as Brooks is as ‘falling.’

        Will Packwood, D/MF, Birmingham — Packwood has undergone a successful transition from defensive midfield to the center of defense for the Blues, whose hopes of Premier League football next year were dashed in the Championship playoffs last week. That failure could actually mean a quicker debut for the Boston native, who figures on the first-team depth chart heading into 2012-13. He’ll also play a huge role for Ramos.

        Sean Cunningham, D, Stabaek, Norway — Seeing little time at Norwegian champion Molde, Cunningham was shipped out to struggling Stabaek for this season, and has since become a regular in Norway’s top flight. With fellow high flyer J.P. Ocegueda available at left back for Ramos, it’s also good news that Cunningham has been seeing some time in the center of defense.

        Bijev and Gil are also listed as ‘rising.’


    • If nothing else that should make you realise that sometimes talent and ability is the least of it when you are talking about why player X is not playing.


  29. Posted by Crow on 2012/05/15 at 5:59 AM

    Okay if this rumour is true- the Union trading McInerney for Juan Pablo Angel- can we just force Nowak into the asylum involuntarily.


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