Euro 2012, Group D: Is Ukraine Merely A Road Apple?

Zlatan is ready to take his plane and go on vacation as France looks to waltz it’s way through it’s near-irrelevant match.

The other one is a biggie though? Ukraine fighting to see one of the hosts through as England looks to bury it’s reputation as the Big Nation Who Couldn’t.

Euro 2012 final group stage day. Back to TSG programming tomorrow.

Hi Shaun.

35 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by sfshwebb on 2012/06/19 at 9:01 AM

    Oh man – I was so looking forward to editing to include the preview!


  2. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 10:48 AM

    Johnson, Terry, Lestcott, Cole
    Milner, Parker, Gerrard, Young

    Considering Ukraine have to win, picking Milner is a very cautious decision. I expect to see Walcott and Defoe as 2nd half subs, especially Walcott. His pace will cause their back line all sorts of problems.


    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 11:12 AM

      I have seen a lot of negative press surrounding Milner. I don’t really agree with his inclusion today, but understand that he is obviously carrying out Mr. Hodgson’s instructions, right? Otherwise, why would he continue to pick him?

      Ukraine are going to come straight out of the gates at us, so perhaps Mr. Hodgson wants more discipline to start with, and for Milner to run hard for an hour before Walcott comes on as an impact sub?

      Keep Calm & Carry On.


      • Posted by Jared on 2012/06/19 at 11:21 AM

        Milner is the perfect Hodgson player. He’ll do the job as instructed without any of the potential for disaster that someone like Walcott or the Ox. He is clearly being given the role of helping out Johnson who is a weak link for the England defense. Of course there is a lot of negative press around that selection because it’s not a sexy pick.

        I am a little surprised by the Rooney/Welbeck pairing. I thought we would see Carroll in there to start as an outlet for the long balls that England will be hoofing upfield when the Ukraine onslaught starts in the beginning.

        Good luck George.


        • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 11:45 AM

          Oh, I understand the rationale for his inclusion, just don’t agree for *this* game.

          Fair comment, but Young is not as good as Rooney playing between the lines. Hopefully we’ll have more forward options as Rooney drops deep.

          Rooney, Welbeck and Young will hopefully gain better understanding the more minutes Welbeck gets for club and country.


  3. Posted by Jared on 2012/06/19 at 12:15 PM

    Terrible miss by Rooney. Rust showing through?


  4. Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/06/19 at 12:34 PM

    Milner is just such a drop off in quality and threat on that wing midfield. We all love his industry and those impish dimples but you see the quality in this squad when Walcott is out wide taking on the backs or threatening to with his speed.


  5. Posted by Jared on 2012/06/19 at 1:07 PM

    Well, England get a lucky break on a terrible call. That’s just further proof that humans can’t do the job on the goal line considering the official was on the line about 10 yards away. He couldn’t have been in a better position and blew the call.


    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 1:50 PM

      I DVRd the game and want to watch Ukraine’s “goal” again. Not that I do not think the ball crossed the line, because it clearly did. I thought there was an offside in the build up play that should have been given, potentially rendering this debate moot.

      The refereeing in this game was awful. The Ukrainian free header moments before was clearly offside but nothing was given.

      Not a great performance by England at all. But we’re getting results. Just.


      • Posted by Jared on 2012/06/19 at 1:59 PM

        I think he was offside so maybe England gets correctly ruled in their favor. Either way it was a truly terrible job by the guy on the goal line.

        It will be hilarious if UEFA’s excuse as to why they don’t need goal line tech is that the assistant blew a run of the mill offside call.


        • Posted by sfshwebb on 2012/06/19 at 2:15 PM

          I say this in all seriousness, but things will only change when France or Brazil get denied a goal of this nature in a major game. If Brazil had lost the confed cup to the USA back in 09′ because one of their shots that also went over the line but was not called a goal, then you would have seen the change in South Africa. The hypocrisy of the world soccer governing bodies sickens me.


        • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 7:23 PM

          No chance. Ukrainian was offside in first phase of play. What went on afterwards was a moot point IMO. If anything, there should have been a free kick awarded to England.

          At this level, the game deserves the best referees. These missed calls are bang out of order.


  6. Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/06/19 at 1:24 PM

    Well paast time to fix that mess of goal line decisions. Needs to be two officials on the field to keep up with the pace of the game as well although embellishment hasn’t been that bad in this tournament. Apart from Pepe of course….
    And while we’re at it can we please move past “injury time” and all of its ridiculous subjectivity. Every other sport has figured out how to keep time between official and clock.


    • Posted by Damon on 2012/06/19 at 1:55 PM

      Actually- I’ve come around on injury time. Every time another sport has a long debate over whether there are .2 or .3 seconds left in the game with serious consequences to the decision it makes me understand why Soccer doesn’t do it. I’d like to see the clock actually stop when teams are time wasting just so they get a visual confirmation that it doesn’t actually help but I have no problem with letting the offense complete a last move once time expires.


      • ” but I have no problem with letting the offense complete a last move once time expires.”

        That puts a lot more pressure on the ref and would open up a whole new can of worms. If the ref gives a team a few more seconds to complete their last offensive possession and they score how can that not be seen as favoritism?


        • Posted by Jared on 2012/06/19 at 7:39 PM

          How do you determine what a last move is in soccer? If it’s a team like Spain then that move could take 2 minutes as they work the ball around.


  7. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 3:00 PM

    P3. W2 L0 D1 — 7pts. Group winners. Job done. Wasn’t the prettiest football at times, but tournament football is about results and getting through to the next round.

    Looking forward to Italy on Sunday. Going to be a very difficult game against a good team. Hopefully, we’ll have enough to progress.


    • Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2012/06/19 at 3:42 PM

      grant wahl posted pics showing the ball beyond the line but also the clear offsides that was missed. I suppose it evens out.

      I’m excited for the next round.


      • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/20 at 3:35 AM

        No chance. Bloke was offside in first phase of play. What went on afterwards was a moot point.


        • Posted by Jared on 2012/06/20 at 5:47 AM

          It’s not moot in terms of getting goal line technology into the game.


          • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/20 at 7:51 AM

            My point is, in this situation, if there was technology and the goal had been given because the ball crossed the line, then it wouldn’t’ve done anything re. Missed offside call, right? It would have been given in error.

            I am in favour of technology. But I am talking about this game in isolation. Ukraine were not cheated out of a goal and England were not lucky. Fact.


  8. Posted by Crow on 2012/06/19 at 3:57 PM

    I don’t understand the hate for Roy Hodgson. He was my favorite coach at Fulham during the Clint Dempsey era. I mean he took Fulham to within minutes of winning the freaking Europa League Final.

    He is pretty successful wherever he goes usually.


    • Posted by KickinNames... on 2012/06/19 at 6:42 PM

      Forgive me but who is hating on Roy Hodgson? Most fans are hopeful and frankly thankful that he has them playing good solid England football. I haven’t seen much of anything that critical of him other than some player selection (mostly Milner/Walcott) which is pretty calm actually.


  9. Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2012/06/19 at 6:48 PM

    my Rooney scoring a goal to boost a Cinderella group finish for England prediction has been my only correct prediction. probably because it’s the only one where I wasn’t letting emotion interfere.

    @george do you think Roy will elect to start any of his speedy wingers vs Italy?


    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/20 at 4:04 AM

      No chance. Guessing the Italians will see England’s right flank as a weakness and play Balzaretti instead of Giacherini? Milner will need to help Johnson neutralize him.

      Although, one way to keep him honest is to attack the space behind the fullback or wingback?


      • Interesting that you say that George. I have the opposite feeling that you have about playing Milner the upcoming game against Italy, as well as the game against Ukraine.

        I thought his start made sense against a Ukraine side that can be creative upfront and is capable of strong counters—Milner is disciplined to keep the right flank locked down and eat up space while England moves through the opposite side of the field with Cole and Young.

        Against Italy, however, I feel like the Italian side doesn’t have a ton of pace, is a little more possession based offensively, and so Walcott would be the better matchup in order to keep the Italians from pushing too many numbers forward and generally putting more pressure on both flanks. It doesn’t seem like Milner’s positional discipline is needed quite as much, as I can see the pace of the game being a little slower, though Italy did push the pace fairly well against Spain for stretches.


  10. Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/06/19 at 7:18 PM

    If only Russia progressed instead of Czech Republic, I’d have a perfect QF bracket. Yes, I did put England to top the group…


  11. Posted by dth on 2012/06/19 at 8:52 PM

    If you’re Italy, don’t you consider going three at the back again to face down England?


  12. Posted by dth on 2012/06/19 at 9:05 PM

    Player of the tournament so far is Hummels for me. Klinsmann’s worst personnel move ever, probably.


    • Not that he’s been the player of the tournament, but I really enjoyed watching Gordon Schildenfeld of Croatia play. Great positional play and really kept them in the game against Spain with a number of excellent clearances and blocks.

      Iniesta for me has been sublime, and it’s been fun to watch how much Ozil orchestrates the German team.


  13. Posted by Jared on 2012/06/20 at 5:55 AM

    Sepp Blatter stated on Twitter that goal line technology is now a “necessity”. If you own a tech company get your unmarked bags of cash ready to get the FIFA contract.


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