The Weekend: Live Commentary

Can Colorado get off the snide? They’ve got a Seattle team needing to start out strong here in the 2nd half.

“The Count” looks to disrupt Seattle’s go-go-go attack…

37 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by dth on 2012/07/28 at 11:15 AM

    Ricardo Clark back to Houston? Interesting. Not sure how great I’d feel about him as the #6 in a 4-3-3, which is what they’ve been going with. Maybe Clark at CB?


    • Posted by mbw on 2012/07/28 at 4:01 PM

      It’s hard to see him displacing Heinault or Boswell, but I’m sure he’ll find a spot somewhere. This feels like the Tim Cahill acquisition — likely to create some problems, but good problems.


      • Posted by dth on 2012/07/28 at 4:45 PM

        Well, just to throw something out there: maybe three in the back?

        I look at MLS teams and see a few that might be a bit interesting experimenting with three at the back.


  2. It would probably be him playing the D mid spot with Davis and Boniek given attacking freedom. That’s a pretty dangerous midfield. Have the Dynamo actually been linked with Clark or is this just speculation? It would certainly make sense, but I haven’t heard anything from any real source.


  3. Posted by John Mosby on 2012/07/28 at 2:15 PM

    The women play such a nice brand of soccer. A bunch of smart, skillful players The mens team really could take some lessons from the ladies.


  4. Posted by dth on 2012/07/28 at 4:47 PM

    The Scott Sealy reign of error continues! Does Hyndman realize the guy is, ah, not terribly good?


    • Posted by Eric on 2012/07/28 at 5:15 PM

      Look at the type of players Hyndman has (and doesn’t have) on the bench to start. De Guzman, Castillo, George John, Perez, and Shea (not even on the bench).

      Maybe I’m missing something on some of these players but it sure seems like Hyndman is leaving a lot of firepower out of his line-ups for some reason.


      • Posted by dth on 2012/07/28 at 5:32 PM

        Well, I’m also thinking of those homegrown forwards–Jon Top and Ruben Luna. Top definitely knows how to play. On his debut, he assisted on a goal. Naturally, this earned him a banishment down to the youth ranks.

        FC Dallas is the reason people stress having the same philosophy from youth ranks to the senior team. Don’t know if anyone caught the u-18 DA final, but FC Dallas won while playing some really good stuff. And so it’s not surprising, when you see them play, to learn they’ve signed the most homegrown players and dominate US youth national teams and even contribute a few guys to Mexico’s youth national teams. But the pipeline springs a leak at the senior level, and it’s because of a coach who would rather play Scott Sealy than take a risk on a young player his own club developed. Or, for that matter, sub on a defensive midfielder when down a goal.

        Hyndman’s kind of an exaggeration of the typical MLS coach, who often think similarly. Who knows how many Jack McInerneys and Amobi Okugos are rotting on MLS benches because their coaches aren’t coaching well?


        • Posted by Eric on 2012/07/28 at 5:39 PM

          But is Hyndman going anywhere soon? The Hunts love the guy and (please correct me if I’m wrong) I think Hyndman even coached one of their family members in college.

          I agree with you about the younger players. Hell, I remember reading a quote that said a source close to Dallas had mentioned that Hyndman didn’t even want to play Shea last season but MLS told him that he either had to play Shea or trade/sell him. Only when pushed into a corner did Hyndman actually play Shea and then have the pleasant surprise of the kid blowing up.


          • Posted by dth on 2012/07/28 at 5:47 PM

            Yeah, what you say about the Hunt-Hyndman relationship echoes what I’ve heard. Still, their organizational strategy makes zero sense. They’ve invested significant money into their academy and are nullifying their own strategy by refusing to play their guys. If you refuse to play your academy players, all they’re doing is taking up critical spots on the roster. Incredibly, if Hyndman is coaching the team, Dallas would be better off without having the best academy in North America (without Mexico).


            • Posted by scweeb on 2012/07/28 at 6:20 PM

              I hope shea gets traded soon. Cause I love how the MLS has a commercial with him but he doesn’t even see the bench. I would love to see him at RSL

            • Posted by matthewsf on 2012/07/28 at 11:16 PM

              He’s this year’s Sacha Kljestan

  5. Posted by dth on 2012/07/28 at 5:37 PM

    BTW, if reports are true and Arsenal are going to sign Santi Cazorla and bring in Nuri Sahin on loan, I guess Wenger’s still got it. Would be a fantastic pair of signings.


    • Posted by Jared on 2012/07/28 at 6:33 PM

      They will still finish 3rd at best. Still too many question marks in the back. With Sahin’s injury issues last season there is little chance that he will stay healthy at Arsenal who seem to have a terrible medical staff/physios. Every year they have at least one important player who gets an injury then basically disappears while statements are made that he will begin training in 2 weeks.

      Sahin made a huge mistake leaving Dortmund when he did. He could have had another solid season with them and in the Champions League before jumping ship.


      • Posted by Jared on 2012/07/29 at 3:38 AM

        I wake up this morning to read that Wilshere is out until October now. Apparently he will be this season’s Arsenal player that never comes back just like he was that player for Arsenal last season.


        • Posted by KickinNames.. on 2012/07/29 at 2:02 PM

          Can anyone say Eduardo? Excellent point Jared. They do always seem to have a disconnect between medic staff and reports. Van P with his constant nkle injuries that linger and linger.


  6. Posted by John Mosby on 2012/07/29 at 4:52 AM

    I wonder what Lyle Yorks thinks about Marvell wynne being called “the count”, which seems to be a reference to an old cereal character.


  7. Posted by Jared on 2012/07/29 at 9:32 AM

    Well, Senegal gets the red card they deserved finally. It was only a matter of time before their Stoke on steroids approach cost them.


    • Posted by KickinNames.. on 2012/07/29 at 2:11 PM

      That was one of the most brainless second yellows I’ve seen in a long time considering he was still blinking out yellow from his eyes just a few minutes earlier. Still amazes me the inability for most African nation teams to leverage the incredible athletic capabilities with an organized, disciplined defense. Whoever can figure that out will be a juggernaut internationally.


  8. Posted by Jared on 2012/07/29 at 11:46 AM

    I’m not sure I can take Arlo White repeatedly referring to Wembley as the home of football to many in the world. This new stadium is definitely not the home of football and I’d argue that the old one wasn’t either to anyone outside of England.


    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2012/07/30 at 7:05 AM

      I agree with you, Jared.

      We all know that the home of football is a toss up between the cathedrals and global icons that are PPL Park and Rio Tinto Stadium.

      Growing up, all aspiring football players dream about playing on their hallowed turf in front of a packed house.


  9. Posted by dth on 2012/07/29 at 12:14 PM

    Do you hear that sound? That sound is the sound of MLS HQ celebrating for the increased transfer valuations of Mssrs. Najar and Bengston.


    • Posted by Hal on 2012/07/29 at 1:13 PM

      what good are those millions when their just put into aging euros instead of youth development.


      • Posted by dth on 2012/07/29 at 1:40 PM

        Well, both DC United and New England Revolution are playing quite a few young players, and DC United’s academy is pretty darn good, so perhaps misapplied in this point.


        • Posted by Hal on 2012/07/29 at 2:50 PM

          ok point taken

          look at NY Red Bull though. 14 million a year in salary for just 3 players.

          Or Seattle Sounders GM saying that they can’t afford to put money into youth academy and that college soccer may be a better development system for them.

          There’s an opportunity cost to not going all out on youth development. As a young league the game should be built from the ground up. Importing million dollar foreigners may give the league more exposure. But ultimately it just masquerades its most glaring weakness.


          • Posted by dth on 2012/07/29 at 8:51 PM

            I don’t disagree, as you can probably see elsewhere on the thread. Where did the Sounders GM say this? It’s kind of a ridiculous comment, seeing as they sell 38k tickets or whatever a game. I did see him saying that college was a better development place, but this is something a lot of coaches have said–Bruce Arena has said the same thing, and Jason Kreis has also said it. (In fact: ). And it’s not hard to come to a similar conclusion, to be honest. MLS reserve league gives you 10 games. A college season will get you 20ish, I believe. If you’re a bit cautious about young players, which American coaches of all sports tend to be, this is a big issue. So there’s that. The imports issue is slightly different.

            I think it can be a bit too simplistic to talk about the imports in this way. If you’re trying to develop quality players, it’s hard for such a player to develop unless surrounded by other quality players. A quality #10 cannot learn how to play penetrating passers unless players are making the corresponding runs. A forward cannot get chances to learn to finish, or learn to make higher-level runs, unless there are players capable of recognizing those runs and rewarding them. A marauding fullback can’t maraud unless supported properly tactically. And so on. The question is who the import is displacing. Is the import displacing, say, Kyle Nakazawa? If so, it’s hard to see what the loss is–and in fact there’s a gain. Or is the import a Scott Sealy blocking homegrown players? Then it’s just the opposite.

            In general MLS coaches are too cautious in giving young players a chance. I really wonder how many Jack McInerneys and Amobi Okugos are chilling out in the bench (or Chris Wondolowskis, for that matter), either to have their development significantly delayed or for their not to have a significant career at all. What will have to happen is a club winning with kids for it to become a fad, or for knowledgeable fans to demand more youth.


            • Posted by dth on 2012/07/29 at 8:55 PM

              To do another add: there’s also a mentoring/practice aspect. Does it help Jose Villarreal more to be hanging around and picking up pointers from Robbie Keane and David Beckham or Kyle Nakazawa?

              The key is for coaches to approach youth development more as a plan rather than a haphazard process, which is what tends to happen. (A lot of our successful young players in MLS have basically gotten their positions through accidents–injuries, or coaches getting fired.) Of the really important young players in MLS, I’d say only Luis Gil has been introduced on something resembling a plan.

            • I don’t think Wondolowski falls into this group. Not only is he not an academy product but his failure to succeed at Houston was because he failed to impress when he was given a chance. Keep in mind that in his time at Houston there was never a player who claimed the 2nd striker spot for any good length of time (with the exception of 2007 when Ngwenya and Jaqua stepped in to play some of the best soccer of their careers.) He also had plenty of opportunities in the CCL.

  10. Posted by dth on 2012/07/29 at 1:39 PM

    Honduras putting out 100% CONCACAF gamesmanship. Perversely glad it works against teams other than us.

    (In fact, Spain has been far more bamboozled by it than we are, at this point. This may be the sole thing the U.S. is better at than Spain.)


    • Posted by Union on 2012/07/29 at 2:07 PM

      Mixed feelings on it. On one hand, I love rooting for the underdog. Especially a country like Honduras who rarely gets this sort of chance at glory. I also think this further puts what the US faces in some context. CONCACAF is not easy because of this type of game more than anything. And yes, the US deals with it better. Its about time the Europeans understand why CONCACAF deserves respect.

      At the same time, looking at people like Ives (god I can’t stand Ives) comment on this as though Spain needs to show class. I dunno. The refereeing was fairly horrific. But even more horrific was the diving and the time wasting. I’ve always felt that sort of play is just as unsportsmanlike as going after a referee. It makes my blood boil to be honest.


      • Posted by dth on 2012/07/29 at 8:43 PM

        I mean, when you say “respect”–I sort of agree. The level of play, on average, is certainly poor and reflected in the various legit rankings. That said, “why it’s challenging” deserves respect from those who don’t understand. Maybe they understood just a bit after watching the Spanish team melt down. For me, that was pretty tame on the CONCACAF gamesmanship scale. There’s some El Salvadorean u-23 player watching that replay thinking, “I could’ve freaked those guys out so much more.”


        • Posted by Eric on 2012/07/30 at 12:06 PM

          Agreed. I’m sure there are US players (from all levels) watching the match going, “That’s pretty mild behavior for CONCACAF players so far.”


          • Posted by Union on 2012/07/30 at 2:11 PM

            Agreed that it was mild. I just mean to say, when certain journalists (cought, Ives, cough), put this game in the context of a David vs. Goliath battle, I cringe. Honduras’s glory should be tempered by the fact that they continue to act unsportsmanlike. I don’t mind the physicallity of their game. The cheapshotting is tiresome, but that is more on the referees than the player. What I can’t stand more than anything is the diving, the lying on the ground in stoppage time after minor contact. Maybe its the American in me, but that type of play is just so just dispicable in my opinion. Its not gamesmanship, its unsportsmanlike. And while many countries are guilty of such behavior, no more so than CONCACAF.


            • “And while many countries are guilty of such behavior, no more so than CONCACAF.”

              I disagree. It is a bit more obvious because the US is in CONCACAF and we usually don’t do much of that, though that will soon change if JK has his way. I’ve followed the USMNT since 1990 and have seen more than a few CONCACAF games. I don’t see CONCACAF nations being any worse or better than other countries.

              I am very tired of all the critics, American and otherwise, who talk about how easy it must be to have a CONCACAF schedule for WC qualifying as if all those bags of urine, the officials with impaired hearing and vision, the gamesmanship, the crap stadiums and all the rest of it is no big deal. Our CONCACAF minnows may be crap soccer teams but that does not mean they are easy to beat.

              In fact, a star studded team loaded with a bunch of entitled high priced prima donna , wanna be’s like that Spain Under 23 team is exactly the wrong team to send out against a hungry Honduras.

              You just knew they were going to get wound up to within an inch of their lives and with seven yellow cards I’d say the Hondurans did their job, which was to get an early goal and then stop the Spaniards from playing and get them down into the mud. I’d say it was a job well done.

  11. Posted by dth on 2012/07/31 at 10:05 PM

    Can anyone explain Jason Kreis’s affection for Jonny Steele? (besides the name?)


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